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US Historic Steel Manual and Cyclone LIBs

Post by James Hall » Mon Apr 09, 2018 4:52 pm

I have a steel modeling job coming up. The structure is from the 1950’s and is put together with mostly rivets and some bolts. The large beams are made up out of L’s and Plats.
To prepare for this job I have loaded the US Steel Construction Aisc Manual 13th ed Historic shapes Excel files in to Part Liberty’s for Cyclone and noticed it is missing L shapes.
Dose the newer 15th ed manual Excel files have the L shapes for the Historic Excel files or should I just enter them by key them in out of the 1950’s Manuel?
It's not worth picking up the new Manual if it dose not have Historic L shapes.

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Re: US Historic Steel Manual and Cyclone LIBs

Post by dpalmer » Fri May 04, 2018 9:07 pm

don't waste your time with steel in cyclone. buy edgewise and do the steel in there. way faster, less aggravating and much more accurate.

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Post by James Hall » Mon May 07, 2018 5:59 pm

It would not matter what program you modeled the steel in. Edgewise, Tekla or sketchup. I need the right part catalog.

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Post by Scott.Warren » Mon May 07, 2018 6:17 pm

Heyo,

Not sure if this helps, but you can edit the Parts Tables using notepad/excel. Might be a matter of changing the 'Angle' table and adding the measurements for the L parts you need. It looks simple enough to add in manually, or copy pasta from excel.

Parts table location:
C:\Program Files\Leica Geosystems\Cyclone\Lib\Tables\

Excerpt from Steel-Angle file (USA):
;;UNIT=mm
;;COLUMNS=name,vl,t,hl,cx,cy
L2x2x1/8,51,3.2,51,13.9,13.9
L2x2x3/16,51,4.8,51,14.5,14.5
L2x2x1/4,51,6.4,51,15.1,15.1
L2x2x5/16,51,7.9,51,15.6,15.6
L2x2x3/8,51,9.5,51,16.2,16.2
L2-1/2x2-1/2x3/16,64,4.8,64,17.8,17.8
L2-1/2x2-1/2x1/4,64,6.4,64,18.3,18.3

Hope this helps,
Scott

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Post by James Hall » Mon May 07, 2018 9:12 pm

Hello Scott,
I have defined Part Tables in Cyclone using what you describe and am comfortable setting Custom LIB tables for other software as well. The Raw data is what I need.

I am hesitant to pick up the New US Steel Aisc Manual 15th ed manual ($400) if they still have not updated the Historic Excel files. Right now my options are combing though 1950's manufactures to make a custom LIB table or buying a book that may not have what I need in it.

James,

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Post by TommyMaddox » Wed May 09, 2018 11:29 pm

You can get all US steel latest edition Excel/PDF on the AISC website.

https://www.aisc.org/globalassets/aisc/ ... 15.0h.xlsx
This is a link to the current shape profiles in Excel.

https://www.aisc.org/publications/histo ... ces/#28367

Above is a repository of all historic shape information.

Let me know if this is helpful, or if I misinterpreted your needs.

I've had to manually compile the entire us spec pipe and steel information from a handbook for software before and it sucked so I definitely understand your dilemmas.

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Post by James Hall » Wed May 16, 2018 2:03 pm

Thanks Tommy,
I missed the 15.0h.xlsx when I was on their site. This will make it much easier to populate my LIB file.

The historic manuals I had already down loaded. Never hurts to have the original source materiel.

James,

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Re: US Historic Steel Manual and Cyclone LIBs

Post by TommyMaddox » Wed May 16, 2018 3:19 pm

James Hall wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 2:03 pm
Thanks Tommy,
I missed the 15.0h.xlsx when I was on their site. This will make it much easier to populate my LIB file.

The historic manuals I had already down loaded. Never hurts to have the original source materiel.

James,
It is very easy to miss. I ended up calling one of the AISC managers directly earlier this year when I was faced with a similar issue.

Glad I was able to be of help, happy modeling!

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