What do you mean with the abbreviations hw and sw.
I was told that they scout software on the z&f don't work as fluent as shown in demo movies and brochures.
I've done a test in the field with vz400i and although there were not a lot of scans (10 or so) it was registered on the fly. In their postprocessing software everything van be inspected if necessary. It's a large scanner but also very robust, better than every other instrument.
Need to choose between FARO S150 Vs LEICA P40 or .. ZF 5010 ?
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Re: Need to choose between FARO S150 Vs LEICA P40 or .. ZF 5010 ?
I`m not sure if you are right,Z+F 5010X and new 5016 both comes with ZF Scout software along with ZF control. With ZF Scout you can register C2C without additional charges.BTW, z+f does not come with the software you need, it comes with Laser Control Pro, not Pro Plus. If you need to do C to C registration then you need the Pro Plus, another $10000 extra or so.
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Re: Need to choose between FARO S150 Vs LEICA P40 or .. ZF 5010 ?
i agree with bashar. zf laser control scout (in bundle with zf imager 5010x and 5016) can register c2c. i was invited to a 5016 roadshow last month. 5016 and a panasonic rugged notebook to run laser control scout release 9. only 3 scan positions (it was a roadshow, not a real job) but c2c and natural point as a target in an outdoor environment. all was ok for registration. the dimension and weight of the zf 5016 and the possibility not only to register on the fly (riegl do it better) but to check on field the possibility to reduce the number of scan position. this is in my opinion the innovation in the laserscanning process. (hw = hardware, the laser scanner and sw = software for registration, like zf laser control or riegl riscan)
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Re: Need to choose between FARO S150 Vs LEICA P40 or .. ZF 5010 ?
I am not sure how much is Riegl VZ400`s vertical field of view. As far as I remember he older Riegl scanner FOV was about 80 degree.i agree with bashar. zf laser control scout (in bundle with zf imager 5010x and 5016) can register c2c. i was invited to a 5016 roadshow last month. 5016 and a panasonic rugged notebook to run laser control scout release 9. only 3 scan positions (it was a roadshow, not a real job) but c2c and natural point as a target in an outdoor environment. all was ok for registration. the dimension and weight of the zf 5016 and the possibility not only to register on the fly (riegl do it better) but to check on field the possibility to reduce the number of scan position. this is in my opinion the innovation in the laserscanning process. (hw = hardware, the laser scanner and sw = software for registration, like zf laser control or riegl riscan)
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Re: Need to choose between FARO S150 Vs LEICA P40 or .. ZF 5010 ?
Guillaume,
I have used many of the scanners and put them through their paces. We use the Leica P40 and the C10. Cyclone has a lot of new features coming shortly. The P40 has some of the best quality I've seen in the data. One thing to remember, is you get what you pay for. Leica maybe on the high side of costs, but here in the USA their service is fabulous. Not sure about your area but I would think the same. Rent one or see if the reps in the area will let you try one out. Compare for yourself.
I have used many of the scanners and put them through their paces. We use the Leica P40 and the C10. Cyclone has a lot of new features coming shortly. The P40 has some of the best quality I've seen in the data. One thing to remember, is you get what you pay for. Leica maybe on the high side of costs, but here in the USA their service is fabulous. Not sure about your area but I would think the same. Rent one or see if the reps in the area will let you try one out. Compare for yourself.
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Re: Need to choose between FARO S150 Vs LEICA P40 or .. ZF 5010 ?
If you have to buy today and there is no waiting for anything, I'd recommend:
1) Z+F 5016 for large-scale indoor work (100's or 1k's of scans). They have great workflows for managing huge datasets, give you imaging (rgb + thermal if needed) quick scan speeds, bulletproof hardware and great support. These guys are the real deal and have been around for a while.
Definitely ask them for a demonstration. It will be worth your time.
2) Faro 150 for indoors. It isn't as accurate and doesn't have the quality/reliability factor of the Z+F but for short-range indoor work, it is lightweight and fast enough.
3) Leica P16 for more versatile work. Considering that you're doing indoor work, but had some issues with accuracy, you might want to investigate a P20. It is bigger, heavier and not as fast as the others, but it will be reliable indoors and out. The software is expensive, so keep an eye out for that.
On the flipside, if you can wait:
1) Leica BLK360. It is cheap, fast (enough) and easy (in theory). There will be teething issues for the first couple of months, perhaps even year, so expect early adopteritise. But the bang-for-the-buck on this one is top-notch, especially in the long run, as Leica figures out all the issues in the workflow and resolves initial bugs.
1) Z+F 5016 for large-scale indoor work (100's or 1k's of scans). They have great workflows for managing huge datasets, give you imaging (rgb + thermal if needed) quick scan speeds, bulletproof hardware and great support. These guys are the real deal and have been around for a while.
Definitely ask them for a demonstration. It will be worth your time.
2) Faro 150 for indoors. It isn't as accurate and doesn't have the quality/reliability factor of the Z+F but for short-range indoor work, it is lightweight and fast enough.
3) Leica P16 for more versatile work. Considering that you're doing indoor work, but had some issues with accuracy, you might want to investigate a P20. It is bigger, heavier and not as fast as the others, but it will be reliable indoors and out. The software is expensive, so keep an eye out for that.
On the flipside, if you can wait:
1) Leica BLK360. It is cheap, fast (enough) and easy (in theory). There will be teething issues for the first couple of months, perhaps even year, so expect early adopteritise. But the bang-for-the-buck on this one is top-notch, especially in the long run, as Leica figures out all the issues in the workflow and resolves initial bugs.
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Re: Need to choose between FARO S150 Vs LEICA P40 or .. ZF 5010 ?
Well Guillaume, with all opinions reading, which was your choice?
(for my mind I read FARO is not so much good as we can believe in France... Leica sounds better? But the Fr service is perhaps equal to US, cf. rikore post)
(for my mind I read FARO is not so much good as we can believe in France... Leica sounds better? But the Fr service is perhaps equal to US, cf. rikore post)
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Re: Need to choose between FARO S150 Vs LEICA P40 or .. ZF 5010 ?
I have owned X330, S70, P16, P40, P50 and RTC360. RTC360 all day wins.archiscan wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:30 am Hy everybody
My name is Guillaume, from France (St Malo, Bretagne)
I started my activity 18 month ago, after meeting a guy who owned a FAROS120, using it for small rehabilitations..
I bought his scanner and hired his operator. We bought a second FARO S120.
We started the activity scanning houses, restaurant for my client (Architects).
When started, we used to deliver dwg plans. Then i started working with foreign freelancer for 3D (Revit) as in France, few people nows it.
Now we deliver BIM modelisation (REVIT) of real good quality, i hired a Vietnam architect (10 years bim) who came to st Malo!
Ourprojects became bigger these last month..
We scanned 10000m² to 20000m² project.. with our 2 FARO S 120..
We discovered we were too light in our way of working.. our scanner are too old, unprecise, and their software... no comment, Scene is not made for huge project. not at all.
I am here because I NEED HELP.
As you understood i m not at all technician, geometer or from the scanning environnement; i need to change my scanners (URGENT).
I scan small house (100/200 m²) to 20 000m² (hospital, factory etc..)
I need a good scanner with a good soft to make us win time as our situation with FARO is critical.
Leica proposed me a P40, their soft seams good, but isn 't an old rnage of scan the P40?
I also was interested in the ZF 5010.. The rolls? with the possibility to stick the scans on a tablet while scanning, with a software that allows projects with hundred of scans.. I havent benn presented yet the ZF. Price turns arround 100 000€ (scan+soft) which is just.. a lot. BUT if it makes me win time..
So please help me beacause i don t now what scanner to choose.
Idea would be a small faro for house and a proefessional one for biggest projects.
No comment on the FARO service who is to my mind, at the level of their sales prices : LOW.
With ZF i saw some post that says it is a very good technical support.
Thank you for reading me, and for your futur help
Best
Guillaume
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