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Trimble X12 Vs RTC340

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Hello all,

My name is Bill Zato, I'm new to the group but not new to scanning. I have always used Leica scanners starting way back from the HDS3000. I would like to purchase the RTC360 but the company I'm working for now has asked for a comparison between the RTC360 and the Trimble X12. I've looked it up online but was wondering if I could get some opinions from those who have used both Trimble and Leica scanners. Are there any comparison power points out there?

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Bill
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My advice is to get a rep to demonstrate the scanner to you. Then hire the scanners and use them on a real job. See which one suits you. Software is another consideration. Take a look at a Faro as well.

We went for the RTC360 in the end. Data was much better at long range and we are familiar with the software.
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Hi Bill,

James is right. Get demos. If the suppliers really want a sale make them work for it. Test it in your environment, under conditions that you work in. I'm not going to give my opinion on the gear ill leave that up to you to make yourself. One piece of advice I would give you, Automatic in-field registration is a lie. The amount of times I've heard salesmen say you register on site and your done.
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Hi Bill,
the new Trimble X12 is ZF5016 in Trimble suite. So if you look for it in the forum you can find more details about it. I played with it since 2017 and it is a workhorse. Please let me know if you have a question.
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JNally wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 9:51 am Hi Bill,

James is right. Get demos. If the suppliers really want a sale make them work for it. Test it in your environment, under conditions that you work in. I'm not going to give my opinion on the gear ill leave that up to you to make yourself. One piece of advice I would give you, Automatic in-field registration is a lie. The amount of times I've heard salesmen say you register on site and your done.
Field registration is a lie unless its something like a reaaly small regular building. It helps you check for completeness whilst on site, but you can't trust it. In my opinion FIELD360 has greatly improved but still lags behind Trimbles offering.

Register360+ is pretty good now, but Limited. I couldn't get on with Realworks and I haven't used SCENE in years. You mileage may vary, so test everything
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Jamesrye wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 5:53 pm
JNally wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 9:51 am Hi Bill,

James is right. Get demos. If the suppliers really want a sale make them work for it. Test it in your environment, under conditions that you work in. I'm not going to give my opinion on the gear ill leave that up to you to make yourself. One piece of advice I would give you, Automatic in-field registration is a lie. The amount of times I've heard salesmen say you register on site and your done.
Field registration is a lie unless its something like a reaaly small regular building. It helps you check for completeness whilst on site, but you can't trust it. In my opinion FIELD360 has greatly improved but still lags behind Trimbles offering.

Register360+ is pretty good now, but Limited. I couldn't get on with Realworks and I haven't used SCENE in years. You mileage may vary, so test everything
I use a Trimble X7 with Perspective and the above statements are not entirely correct. The only conditions the onsite registration does not work is when there is dense vegetation with no shapes. I import into Trimble software every time and verify against control and it is always already registered perfectly.
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wzato74 wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 3:51 pm Hello all,

My name is Bill Zato, I'm new to the group but not new to scanning. I have always used Leica scanners starting way back from the HDS3000. I would like to purchase the RTC360 but the company I'm working for now has asked for a comparison between the RTC360 and the Trimble X12. I've looked it up online but was wondering if I could get some opinions from those who have used both Trimble and Leica scanners. Are there any comparison power points out there?

Thank you,
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I don't think the X12 and RTC360 are comparable. A better comparision would be the X12 v P series or X7/9 v RTC360.
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JonathanP wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 7:45 pm
Jamesrye wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 5:53 pm
JNally wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 9:51 am Hi Bill,

James is right. Get demos. If the suppliers really want a sale make them work for it. Test it in your environment, under conditions that you work in. I'm not going to give my opinion on the gear ill leave that up to you to make yourself. One piece of advice I would give you, Automatic in-field registration is a lie. The amount of times I've heard salesmen say you register on site and your done.
Field registration is a lie unless its something like a reaaly small regular building. It helps you check for completeness whilst on site, but you can't trust it. In my opinion FIELD360 has greatly improved but still lags behind Trimbles offering.

Register360+ is pretty good now, but Limited. I couldn't get on with Realworks and I haven't used SCENE in years. You mileage may vary, so test everything
I use a Trimble X7 with Perspective and the above statements are not entirely correct. The only conditions the onsite registration does not work is when there is dense vegetation with no shapes. I import into Trimble software every time and verify against control and it is always already registered perfectly.
For me, I was mostly talking about FIELD360. I only used Perspective on a couple of projects, so my experience is limited. It was great though, straight out to e57, and a 5 storey building fit the control perfect.

With FIELD360, it always needs checking and tweaking back in the office. But I find the REG360+ and especially Cyclone Core to be excellent.
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I don't think the X12 and RTC360 are comparable. A better comparision would be the X12 v P series or X7/9 v RTC360.
X12 vs P series? It's the P series every time for me. Cleaner data, though it's not light!
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Does anyone have some X12 datasets that can be shared? I've never really found anything good since it's been released and they still have virtually zero videos up on YouTube showing anything of the scanner in action beyond a couple marketing videos.

I think there were a couple small sample datasets on the Trimble website a while back that needed a Trimble viewer to look at. No e57 files that I can remember.
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