is the TX8 the fastest scanner in the world?

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Re: is the TX8 the fastest scanner in the world?

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Hello ,

I use both

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It’s an interesting discussion, both systems have their merits, if you want a small lightweight scanner for internal Surveys, it’s difficult to compete with the TX5. However the fact remains in order to get anywhere near the same quality of data out of the TX5 as you would with the TX8, the quality setting would need to be at its maximum, hence the extended time for scanning. I would also look at the real range of a TX5, as data in no way reflects that what you would achieve with the TX8 at 120m short range (max 340m). Any external works where range and quality of data are key, the TX8 is the obvious tool.

In reality, both these scanners are used by Surveyors for very different applications, the real comparison would be with the P40, and quite frankly the Trimble TX8 wins hands down, both with the field workflows and the office with Realworks.
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RyanBowles wrote:the real comparison would be with the P40, and quite frankly the Trimble TX8 wins hands down, both with the field workflows and the office with Realworks.
Hi Ryan,

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Could I ask what your experiences are with the P40 and why you would think the TX8 would 'win hands down' over another scanner?
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Thank you kindly, I think the data speaks for itself :D I obviously would not expect you to agree with me on that one :lol:
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That's interesting, new to this, didn't realise you could alter your post's once posted ?

My experience? I have looked into to it, alongside other scanners on the market, as I'm sure you have. Technology is rapidly changing and will continue to do so, and while manufacturers are racing to bring out the next best thing, they will constantly be leapfrogging, but at this juncture, I would say the Trimble TX8 has it.
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Dangerous statements there Ryan for your first post. All three scanners are great with different workflows. The P40 has ever so slightly different resolutions (when using the fixed ones) and all I can see is they are identical speeds, as they would be as they run with the same pulse rate and rotation speeds. 6.3mm @10m 1 min 42sec
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Thanks Steven, I will try to be less controversial in the future :D
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stevenramsey wrote:... All three scanners are great with different workflows. The P40 has ever so slightly different resolutions (when using the fixed ones) and all I can see is they are identical speeds, as they would be as they run with the same pulse rate and rotation speeds...
The Trimble TX8 spec sheet says "Ultra-high speed time-of-flight powered by Trimble Lightning technology"
and the Leica P40 spec sheet says "Ultra-high speed time-of-flight enhanced by Waveform Digitising (WFD) technology".

Since they are both TOF, I'd expect them to be less noisy than PhaseBased.

Now would someone:
1) from Trimble like to define what "Trimble Lightning Technology"
AND/OR
2) from Leica like to define what "Waveform Digitising (WFD) Technology"
really means, other than in salesperson-speak.
(Saying it "reduces noise" is salesperson-speak. :roll:
Saying how it reduces noise so sellees, AKA non-vendors, can tell if it fits their situation is not salesperson-speak.)

Not looking for any proprietary info here, but without any other info,
they are both just time of flight not phase based scanners and the words in quotes
after time-of-flight, mean they are faster than the old way of doing TOF. Nothing
about quality (accuracy as range increase OR reflectivity of what is being scanned OR reduction in time to scan to get a given level of quality OR ...).

If a noise reduction/quality improvement is done it software, it's real;
but, it's not an improved scanner. Presumably, the same type of noise reduction
could be done in another piece of software for other scanners so that is not a
difference between the data the scanner returns, which is what specs are supposed
to supply. We won't even go into how the specs are stated by the vendors in their
best light, 1 standard deviation, normal to scanner, non-reflective, non-absorptive.
That's all part of sales literature and we understand it is what it is.
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Steve,
Trying to analyze marketing mubmo jumbo will result in a headache :lol:
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Re: is the TX8 the fastest scanner in the world?

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SAttaya wrote: Now would someone:
1) from Trimble like to define what "Trimble Lightning Technology"
AND/OR
2) from Leica like to define what "Waveform Digitising (WFD) Technology"
really means
To paraphrase an insightful recent post on another part of this forum "Uhh, good luck with that." These are the same people still arguing over the definition of a dual-axis compensator, and that term's defined right in its name. ;-)
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