Introducing Trimble X7 Scanning System

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blazaj wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:30 pm Trimble X7 workflow:


youtu.be/QKuCHPNl3Oo
Seems to be pretty straightforward.
Being able to measure on the FC and even exporting out is really cool.
Can you add curvey control on the FC as well? That would make it a truly self contained solution.
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when i check this video, autocalibration takes about 20 seconds. So scanning times must be added with 20 seconds :D

what i like about it is to do some markup and additional pics with the tablet so it is linked together.
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landmeterbeuckx wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:20 am when i check this video, autocalibration takes about 20 seconds. So scanning times must be added with 20 seconds :D

what i like about it is to do some markup and additional pics with the tablet so it is linked together.
I love having the option of getting E57 or LAS straight off the tablet without having to go through a lengthy import export exercise on the desktop. I could see these being of real benefit in terms of streamlined workflow for our users.
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There is another video according to which you should be able to georeference and even set-out with the new scanner and the field software:


youtu.be/pc2Q0UCXnf0
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smacl wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:29 am
landmeterbeuckx wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:20 am when i check this video, autocalibration takes about 20 seconds. So scanning times must be added with 20 seconds :D

what i like about it is to do some markup and additional pics with the tablet so it is linked together.
I love having the option of getting E57 or LAS straight off the tablet without having to go through a lengthy import export exercise on the desktop. I could see these being of real benefit in terms of streamlined workflow for our users.
I still think that the data needs to be checked on a proper laptop or something else. Scanning and exporting to a client without controls is not done (my opinion).

I also believe that the onsite registration will fail in certain situations. All these demo videos are always ideal scenarios. I have experience with onsite registration with a riegl and even then sometimes it fails. No instrument is perfect ;-)

Checking and control is key!
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landmeterbeuckx wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:26 amChecking and control is key!
I agree 100%, but of format like E57 would give you the option of doing that QA work on whatever software you choose where a proprietary format would limit you to the manufacturers package and their tools or a potentially lengthy export process to go to someone else's tools. E57 gives you terrestrial data on a setup by setup basis with unadjusted data and the transformation parameters to bring it into a common grid where it has been registered, thus allowing you freedom to check and refine the registration. For me, this is one of its major advantages over LAS and other reduced coordinate formats.
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smacl wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:00 pm I agree 100%, but of format like E57 would give you the option of doing that QA work on whatever software you choose where a proprietary format would limit you to the manufacturers package and their tools...
That sounds great in theory, but it doesn't sound very much like my past experiences with other Trimble products.

I guess we'll see how it ends up working out
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landmeterbeuckx wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:20 am when i check this video, autocalibration takes about 20 seconds. So scanning times must be added with 20 seconds :D

what i like about it is to do some markup and additional pics with the tablet so it is linked together.
The time of calibration is already acounted in the 1min34. This time is for checking horizontal, vertical calibration, and distance with temperature.
About this, after +-30min, when X7 is on good temperature this operation is canceled. And you win 15s on the time calibration.
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Vincent DENIS wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:06 pm
landmeterbeuckx wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:20 am when i check this video, autocalibration takes about 20 seconds. So scanning times must be added with 20 seconds :D

what i like about it is to do some markup and additional pics with the tablet so it is linked together.
The time of calibration is already acounted in the 1min34. This time is for checking horizontal, vertical calibration, and distance with temperature.
About this, after +-30min, when X7 is on good temperature this operation is canceled. And you win 15s on the time calibration.
That's not bad.

One more thing on my rant about controlling data :

The instrument is aimed at the construction business. This is just where most checks have to be done and control your work thoroughly.

If you are scanning and the chief is looking behind your shoulder with the concrete pouring guy breathing down your neck to start, mistakes are bound to happen.

Do everything at ease and correct, check the scans and the registration before sending it off. Who will be responsible? Not Trimble or the software you will use....
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Hats off to Trimble.
It seems to be a very accomplished solution Building fit-out + as-built documentation heaven right there!

The way that people use it, well, it's each and every one's responsibility to do the basics right, if you don't, then the free market will kick in...
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