Is Recap the right tool for large point clouds?

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So the sum up from this post is that Recap is terrible software that's only used because thousands of clients want recap file types as an end product because they use autodesk software and it works well with autodesk software?

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scanster1 wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:09 am
So the sum up from this post is that Recap is terrible software that's only used because thousands of clients want recap file types as an end product because they use autodesk software and it works well with autodesk software?
That's roughly how I usually explain it.

Autodesk has an enormous market share of the CAD user market. Most of a pointclouds value is currently derived from how quickly you can turn it into a solid model and then into a physical reality so Recap is a bottleneck we are forced to enter on every project.

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Hello to everybody! I'm a new member and I would appreciate your help very much. Ok, I understood ReCAP is not the best option for big point clouds to process. But can somebody suggest a software that satisfyes the following criterias:
- can deal with big lidar point clouds (.LAZ) 1.5 - 3 billion points or about 1.5 - 3Gb size.
- can classify (manually and automatically) LAZ points. I mean real classification in file metadata so that you can export clouds and open in other softwares with classification.
- ability to import and export point cloud in multiple formats including original LAS(LAZ) format.
- ability to deal with global coordinate systems such as WGS84 and/or UTM.

P.S. we work with Metashape processed date (big landscape territories including industrial zones, trees, water etc). Currently, I'm trying to deal with Autodesk products such as ReCAP-Infraworks-Civil 3D. And it not only takes hours and hours of time to process data... but also converts data in unneded formats :(

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smacl wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:25 pm
Matt Young wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 2:14 pm
The real problem I see is the amount of data being collected these days.
This, and how and when it is reduced is also an issue. A high speed scanner that can collect a million or two million points a second is fine, but most of these points should never be stored. If you have co-planar points, or even co-linear points, very close to one another with similar intensity values there should be an option to discard them at time of scan. I carried out an exercise a few months ago on a scan of a railway tunnel done with a P40 and ended up with a 73% reduction on number of points for no visible difference in the scan and no difference > 0.1mm on the delivered model.
I agree Shane, There is a lot more room for improvement of collecting and storage algorithms at the time of scan. This would immensely reduce the scan pointcloud size, but not the imagery size. Algorithms that overlay AI self learning Image analysis tools (Similar to Aerial Erdas type tools) using the panoramic view scan imagery with classification inclusion from those rules- on cloud points themselves would also play a factor in filtering out un-wanted points.

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Joe_Johnson wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:36 am
Hello to everybody! I'm a new member and I would appreciate your help very much. Ok, I understood ReCAP is not the best option for big point clouds to process. But can somebody suggest a software that satisfyes the following criterias:
- can deal with big lidar point clouds (.LAZ) 1.5 - 3 billion points or about 1.5 - 3Gb size.
- can classify (manually and automatically) LAZ points. I mean real classification in file metadata so that you can export clouds and open in other softwares with classification.
- ability to import and export point cloud in multiple formats including original LAS(LAZ) format.
- ability to deal with global coordinate systems such as WGS84 and/or UTM.

P.S. we work with Metashape processed date (big landscape territories including industrial zones, trees, water etc). Currently, I'm trying to deal with Autodesk products such as ReCAP-Infraworks-Civil 3D. And it not only takes hours and hours of time to process data... but also converts data in unneded formats :(
Alex


You might want to try Quick Terrain Modeler by Applied Imagery (A John Hopkins Applied Physics Product)
Not a registration tool,
Geared mainly to LAS data but can import CAD Vector data also and has good classification flexibilty
Their main clientele is defense industry

http://appliedimagery.com/

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Thanks for your reply! I'll try that software

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Check Arena data studio too.

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Re: Is Recap the right tool for large point clouds?

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Joe_Johnson wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:39 am
Thanks for your reply! I'll try that software
LASTools would also seem like a good option for batch classification of a large number of LAS files.

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Re: Is Recap the right tool for large point clouds?

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Thank you

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